Lack of science behind unlimited vaccination

[Reg Griswold]

Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm


"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "



Reg

"Trust us, we're experts!"

[Woody]

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?

carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!


carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

[Bob Officer]

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:14:12 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?
carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!

IIRC GWS, was suspected to be caused by a infection carried by a sand
mite. The parasite was carried on the skin and the belongings of
returning GIs. The infections then spread to family members, carried
by the mites.

Post by Woody
carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

[Reg Griswold]

Post by Bob Officer
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:14:12 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?
carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!

IIRC GWS, was suspected to be caused by a infection carried by a sand
mite. The parasite was carried on the skin and the belongings of
returning GIs. The infections then spread to family members, carried
by the mites.

Post by Woody
carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist."

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/gulf_war_syndrome/GWS_and_Vaccines.html
"French troops, who did not receive the same massive drug cocktails as
their American and British counterparts, have not suffered the same
incidence of Gulf war syndrome. "

http://www.asanltr.com/ASANews-97/poxvaccines.htm
"A number of troops who were not sent to the conflict, but who were
injected with the same group of vaccines, have shown the same symptoms
and trends as those claiming to have the GWS. The troops were
designated as backups that were prepared, but never deployed.

"Prior to these reports, many people, including scientists and medical
professionals, believed that chemical exposures from distant
ammunition dumps, sporadic detection of chemical detectors and even
the extensive oil fires might be responsible for the GWS. While ASA
was in Kuwait, they spoke with several of the doctors and asked if
there was any evidence of symptoms similar to the GWS in the Kuwaiti
population. No such clustering of such symptoms has been noted, which
questions the effect of exposure to these chemicals as a cause. "


Poor bob, so stuck in denial he can't even consider the possibility
that big pharma is responsible for causing disease.



Reg

"Trust us, we're experts!"

[Bob Officer]

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:04:31 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:14:12 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?
carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!

IIRC GWS, was suspected to be caused by a infection carried by a sand
mite. The parasite was carried on the skin and the belongings of
returning GIs. The infections then spread to family members, carried
by the mites.

Post by Woody
carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist."

rense? The same source which claims the Queen of England is a
reptile? Have you no shame carole?

http://www.google.com/search?q=everything+in+the+internet+is+true
http://everythingontheinternetistrue.com/
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Proof_that_everything_on_the_internet_is_true

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/gulf_war_syndrome/GWS_and_Vaccines.html
"French troops, who did not receive the same massive drug cocktails as
their American and British counterparts, have not suffered the same
incidence of Gulf war syndrome. "

The causal agent of GWS initially and until about 1998 was thought to
be a parasite transmited by a small mite.

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.asanltr.com/ASANews-97/poxvaccines.htm
"A number of troops who were not sent to the conflict, but who were
injected with the same group of vaccines, have shown the same symptoms
and trends as those claiming to have the GWS. The troops were
designated as backups that were prepared, but never deployed.
"Prior to these reports, many people, including scientists and medical
professionals, believed that chemical exposures from distant
ammunition dumps, sporadic detection of chemical detectors and even
the extensive oil fires might be responsible for the GWS. While ASA
was in Kuwait, they spoke with several of the doctors and asked if
there was any evidence of symptoms similar to the GWS in the Kuwaiti
population. No such clustering of such symptoms has been noted, which
questions the effect of exposure to these chemicals as a cause. "

Additionally, the other possible agents were Sarin nerve gas which
was detected by British, Czech, and France. and the PB tablets used
to counteract the nerve agent rather than point to an infectious
agent.
RAC-GWVI Report 2008, p. 1 (PDF p. 11)
www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA491742

Post by Reg Griswold
Poor bob, so stuck in denial he can't even consider the possibility
that big pharma is responsible for causing disease.

http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/970409/cia_wp.html

There are several good and well written reports including one that
rules out infectious agents and points out that 125,000 us troops and
9,000 british troops were exposed to mustard gas and sarin which the
US destroyed the Iraq's ammo storage facility at Khamisiyah.

[Reg Griswold]

Post by Bob Officer
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:04:31 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:14:12 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?
carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!

IIRC GWS, was suspected to be caused by a infection carried by a sand
mite. The parasite was carried on the skin and the belongings of
returning GIs. The infections then spread to family members, carried
by the mites.

Post by Woody
carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist."

rense? The same source which claims the Queen of England is a
reptile? Have you no shame carole?
http://www.google.com/search?q=everything+in+the+internet+is+true
http://everythingontheinternetistrue.com/
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Proof_that_everything_on_the_internet_is_true

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/gulf_war_syndrome/GWS_and_Vaccines.html
"French troops, who did not receive the same massive drug cocktails as
their American and British counterparts, have not suffered the same
incidence of Gulf war syndrome. "

The causal agent of GWS initially and until about 1998 was thought to
be a parasite transmited by a small mite.

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.asanltr.com/ASANews-97/poxvaccines.htm
"A number of troops who were not sent to the conflict, but who were
injected with the same group of vaccines, have shown the same symptoms
and trends as those claiming to have the GWS. The troops were
designated as backups that were prepared, but never deployed.
"Prior to these reports, many people, including scientists and medical
professionals, believed that chemical exposures from distant
ammunition dumps, sporadic detection of chemical detectors and even
the extensive oil fires might be responsible for the GWS. While ASA
was in Kuwait, they spoke with several of the doctors and asked if
there was any evidence of symptoms similar to the GWS in the Kuwaiti
population. No such clustering of such symptoms has been noted, which
questions the effect of exposure to these chemicals as a cause. "

Additionally, the other possible agents were Sarin nerve gas which
was detected by British, Czech, and France. and the PB tablets used
to counteract the nerve agent rather than point to an infectious
agent.
RAC-GWVI Report 2008, p. 1 (PDF p. 11)
www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA491742

Post by Reg Griswold
Poor bob, so stuck in denial he can't even consider the possibility
that big pharma is responsible for causing disease.

http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/970409/cia_wp.html
There are several good and well written reports including one that
rules out infectious agents and points out that 125,000 us troops and
9,000 british troops were exposed to mustard gas and sarin which the
US destroyed the Iraq's ammo storage facility at Khamisiyah.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm\
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.



Reg

"Trust us, we're experts!"

[Ernie]

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:04:31 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:14:12 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?
carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!

IIRC GWS, was suspected to be caused by a infection carried by a sand
mite. The parasite was carried on the skin and the belongings of
returning GIs. The infections then spread to family members, carried
by the mites.

Post by Woody
carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist."

rense? The same source which claims the Queen of England is a
reptile? Have you no shame carole?
http://www.google.com/search?q=everything+in+the+internet+is+true
http://everythingontheinternetistrue.com/
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Proof_that_everything_on_the_internet_is_true

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/gulf_war_syndrome/GWS_and_Vaccines.html
"French troops, who did not receive the same massive drug cocktails as
their American and British counterparts, have not suffered the same
incidence of Gulf war syndrome. "

The causal agent of GWS initially and until about 1998 was thought to
be a parasite transmited by a small mite.

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.asanltr.com/ASANews-97/poxvaccines.htm
"A number of troops who were not sent to the conflict, but who were
injected with the same group of vaccines, have shown the same symptoms
and trends as those claiming to have the GWS. The troops were
designated as backups that were prepared, but never deployed.
"Prior to these reports, many people, including scientists and medical
professionals, believed that chemical exposures from distant
ammunition dumps, sporadic detection of chemical detectors and even
the extensive oil fires might be responsible for the GWS. While ASA
was in Kuwait, they spoke with several of the doctors and asked if
there was any evidence of symptoms similar to the GWS in the Kuwaiti
population. No such clustering of such symptoms has been noted, which
questions the effect of exposure to these chemicals as a cause. "

Additionally, the other possible agents were Sarin nerve gas which
was detected by British, Czech, and France. and the PB tablets used
to counteract the nerve agent rather than point to an infectious
agent.
RAC-GWVI Report 2008, p. 1 (PDF p. 11)
www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA491742

Post by Reg Griswold
Poor bob, so stuck in denial he can't even consider the possibility
that big pharma is responsible for causing disease.

http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/970409/cia_wp.html
There are several good and well written reports including one that
rules out infectious agents and points out that 125,000 us troops and
9,000 british troops were exposed to mustard gas and sarin which the
US destroyed the Iraq's ammo storage facility at Khamisiyah.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm\
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

The page cannot be found.

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

Face it, carole. You don't know what you're talking about.

[Bob Officer]

On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 06:41:30 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Ernie

Post by Ernie

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:04:31 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:14:12 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?
carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!

IIRC GWS, was suspected to be caused by a infection carried by a sand
mite. The parasite was carried on the skin and the belongings of
returning GIs. The infections then spread to family members, carried
by the mites.

Post by Woody
carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist."

rense? The same source which claims the Queen of England is a
reptile? Have you no shame carole?
http://www.google.com/search?q=everything+in+the+internet+is+true
http://everythingontheinternetistrue.com/
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Proof_that_everything_on_the_internet_is_true

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/gulf_war_syndrome/GWS_and_Vaccines.html
"French troops, who did not receive the same massive drug cocktails as
their American and British counterparts, have not suffered the same
incidence of Gulf war syndrome. "

The causal agent of GWS initially and until about 1998 was thought to
be a parasite transmited by a small mite.

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.asanltr.com/ASANews-97/poxvaccines.htm
"A number of troops who were not sent to the conflict, but who were
injected with the same group of vaccines, have shown the same symptoms
and trends as those claiming to have the GWS. The troops were
designated as backups that were prepared, but never deployed.
"Prior to these reports, many people, including scientists and medical
professionals, believed that chemical exposures from distant
ammunition dumps, sporadic detection of chemical detectors and even
the extensive oil fires might be responsible for the GWS. While ASA
was in Kuwait, they spoke with several of the doctors and asked if
there was any evidence of symptoms similar to the GWS in the Kuwaiti
population. No such clustering of such symptoms has been noted, which
questions the effect of exposure to these chemicals as a cause. "

Additionally, the other possible agents were Sarin nerve gas which
was detected by British, Czech, and France. and the PB tablets used
to counteract the nerve agent rather than point to an infectious
agent.
RAC-GWVI Report 2008, p. 1 (PDF p. 11)
www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA491742

Post by Reg Griswold
Poor bob, so stuck in denial he can't even consider the possibility
that big pharma is responsible for causing disease.

http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/970409/cia_wp.html
There are several good and well written reports including one that
rules out infectious agents and points out that 125,000 us troops and
9,000 british troops were exposed to mustard gas and sarin which the
US destroyed the Iraq's ammo storage facility at Khamisiyah.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm\
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

The page cannot be found.

by dropping the "/" on the end, it comes out to a page citing mercola
as an authority. carole really doesn't want people to see the
nonsense she believes.

mercola, whale.to, rense, and herself four large false authorities,
mercola is usually also circular references to more of his articles
about the same subject, not peer reviewed and basically based upon a
post hoc fallacy.

Post by Ernie

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

Face it, carole. You don't know what you're talking about.

squalene is a naturally occurring substance produced in small
quantities in the human liver. It is used in lots of products
including skin care and cosmetics.

Carole made an idiot out of by mercola. it doesn't get much better
than this.

I would bet if one looked hard enough at mercola pages products he
sells might even be found to contain squalene.

mercola is a silly man, and carole is an even more silly woman.

[Woody]

Post by Bob Officer
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 06:41:30 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Ernie

Post by Ernie

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:04:31 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:14:12 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?
carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!

IIRC GWS, was suspected to be caused by a infection carried by a sand
mite. The parasite was carried on the skin and the belongings of
returning GIs. The infections then spread to family members, carried
by the mites.

Post by Woody
carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist."

rense? The same source which claims the Queen of England is a
reptile? Have you no shame carole?
http://www.google.com/search?q=everything+in+the+internet+is+true
http://everythingontheinternetistrue.com/
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Proof_that_everything_on_the_internet_is_true

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/gulf_war_syndrome/GWS_and_Vaccines.html
"French troops, who did not receive the same massive drug cocktails as
their American and British counterparts, have not suffered the same
incidence of Gulf war syndrome. "

The causal agent of GWS initially and until about 1998 was thought to
be a parasite transmited by a small mite.

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.asanltr.com/ASANews-97/poxvaccines.htm
"A number of troops who were not sent to the conflict, but who were
injected with the same group of vaccines, have shown the same symptoms
and trends as those claiming to have the GWS. The troops were
designated as backups that were prepared, but never deployed.
"Prior to these reports, many people, including scientists and medical
professionals, believed that chemical exposures from distant
ammunition dumps, sporadic detection of chemical detectors and even
the extensive oil fires might be responsible for the GWS. While ASA
was in Kuwait, they spoke with several of the doctors and asked if
there was any evidence of symptoms similar to the GWS in the Kuwaiti
population. No such clustering of such symptoms has been noted, which
questions the effect of exposure to these chemicals as a cause. "

Additionally, the other possible agents were Sarin nerve gas which
was detected by British, Czech, and France. and the PB tablets used
to counteract the nerve agent rather than point to an infectious
agent.
RAC-GWVI Report 2008, p. 1 (PDF p. 11)
www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA491742

Post by Reg Griswold
Poor bob, so stuck in denial he can't even consider the possibility
that big pharma is responsible for causing disease.

http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/970409/cia_wp.html
There are several good and well written reports including one that
rules out infectious agents and points out that 125,000 us troops and
9,000 british troops were exposed to mustard gas and sarin which the
US destroyed the Iraq's ammo storage facility at Khamisiyah.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm\
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

The page cannot be found.

by dropping the "/" on the end, it comes out to a page citing mercola
as an authority. carole really doesn't want people to see the
nonsense she believes.

You mean the "\".

If she did that intentionally, why bother posting the URL at all?

carole has to be the most incompetent dolt in mha.

Post by Bob Officer
mercola, whale.to, rense, and herself four large false authorities,
mercola is usually also circular references to more of his articles
about the same subject, not peer reviewed and basically based upon a
post hoc fallacy.

Post by Ernie

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

Face it, carole. You don't know what you're talking about.

squalene is a naturally occurring substance produced in small
quantities in the human liver. It is used in lots of products
including skin care and cosmetics.
Carole made an idiot out of by mercola. it doesn't get much better
than this.
I would bet if one looked hard enough at mercola pages products he
sells might even be found to contain squalene.
mercola is a silly man, and carole is an even more silly woman.

The worst part is that carole believes she's posting links that support
her nonsense.

[Bob Officer]

On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:12:57 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Bob Officer
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 06:41:30 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Ernie

Post by Ernie

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:04:31 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:14:12 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?
carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!

IIRC GWS, was suspected to be caused by a infection carried by a sand
mite. The parasite was carried on the skin and the belongings of
returning GIs. The infections then spread to family members, carried
by the mites.

Post by Woody
carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist."

rense? The same source which claims the Queen of England is a
reptile? Have you no shame carole?
http://www.google.com/search?q=everything+in+the+internet+is+true
http://everythingontheinternetistrue.com/
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Proof_that_everything_on_the_internet_is_true

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/gulf_war_syndrome/GWS_and_Vaccines.html
"French troops, who did not receive the same massive drug cocktails as
their American and British counterparts, have not suffered the same
incidence of Gulf war syndrome. "

The causal agent of GWS initially and until about 1998 was thought to
be a parasite transmited by a small mite.

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.asanltr.com/ASANews-97/poxvaccines.htm
"A number of troops who were not sent to the conflict, but who were
injected with the same group of vaccines, have shown the same symptoms
and trends as those claiming to have the GWS. The troops were
designated as backups that were prepared, but never deployed.
"Prior to these reports, many people, including scientists and medical
professionals, believed that chemical exposures from distant
ammunition dumps, sporadic detection of chemical detectors and even
the extensive oil fires might be responsible for the GWS. While ASA
was in Kuwait, they spoke with several of the doctors and asked if
there was any evidence of symptoms similar to the GWS in the Kuwaiti
population. No such clustering of such symptoms has been noted, which
questions the effect of exposure to these chemicals as a cause. "

Additionally, the other possible agents were Sarin nerve gas which
was detected by British, Czech, and France. and the PB tablets used
to counteract the nerve agent rather than point to an infectious
agent.
RAC-GWVI Report 2008, p. 1 (PDF p. 11)
www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA491742

Post by Reg Griswold
Poor bob, so stuck in denial he can't even consider the possibility
that big pharma is responsible for causing disease.

http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/970409/cia_wp.html
There are several good and well written reports including one that
rules out infectious agents and points out that 125,000 us troops and
9,000 british troops were exposed to mustard gas and sarin which the
US destroyed the Iraq's ammo storage facility at Khamisiyah.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm\
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

The page cannot be found.

by dropping the "/" on the end, it comes out to a page citing mercola
as an authority. carole really doesn't want people to see the
nonsense she believes.

You mean the "\".

Yes, I did. My error.

Post by Woody
If she did that intentionally, why bother posting the URL at all?

Misdirection? trying to create confusion

Post by Woody
carole has to be the most incompetent dolt in mha.

No, that would be bolen, but carole is working hard to take his
place. Chung is in the running also. Rusty the huffing canuk is in
that race as well.

Post by Woody

Post by Bob Officer
mercola, whale.to, rense, and herself four large false authorities,
mercola is usually also circular references to more of his articles
about the same subject, not peer reviewed and basically based upon a
post hoc fallacy.

Post by Ernie

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

Face it, carole. You don't know what you're talking about.

squalene is a naturally occurring substance produced in small
quantities in the human liver. It is used in lots of products
including skin care and cosmetics.
Carole made an idiot out of by mercola. it doesn't get much better
than this.
I would bet if one looked hard enough at mercola pages products he
sells might even be found to contain squalene.
mercola is a silly man, and carole is an even more silly woman.

The worst part is that carole believes she's posting links that support
her nonsense.

yep, and that is the almost amusing part.

[Ernie]

Post by Bob Officer
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 06:41:30 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Ernie

Post by Ernie

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:04:31 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:14:12 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?
carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!

IIRC GWS, was suspected to be caused by a infection carried by a sand
mite. The parasite was carried on the skin and the belongings of
returning GIs. The infections then spread to family members, carried
by the mites.

Post by Woody
carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist."

rense? The same source which claims the Queen of England is a
reptile? Have you no shame carole?
http://www.google.com/search?q=everything+in+the+internet+is+true
http://everythingontheinternetistrue.com/
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Proof_that_everything_on_the_internet_is_true

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/gulf_war_syndrome/GWS_and_Vaccines.html
"French troops, who did not receive the same massive drug cocktails as
their American and British counterparts, have not suffered the same
incidence of Gulf war syndrome. "

The causal agent of GWS initially and until about 1998 was thought to
be a parasite transmited by a small mite.

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.asanltr.com/ASANews-97/poxvaccines.htm
"A number of troops who were not sent to the conflict, but who were
injected with the same group of vaccines, have shown the same symptoms
and trends as those claiming to have the GWS. The troops were
designated as backups that were prepared, but never deployed.
"Prior to these reports, many people, including scientists and medical
professionals, believed that chemical exposures from distant
ammunition dumps, sporadic detection of chemical detectors and even
the extensive oil fires might be responsible for the GWS. While ASA
was in Kuwait, they spoke with several of the doctors and asked if
there was any evidence of symptoms similar to the GWS in the Kuwaiti
population. No such clustering of such symptoms has been noted, which
questions the effect of exposure to these chemicals as a cause. "

Additionally, the other possible agents were Sarin nerve gas which
was detected by British, Czech, and France. and the PB tablets used
to counteract the nerve agent rather than point to an infectious
agent.
RAC-GWVI Report 2008, p. 1 (PDF p. 11)
www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA491742

Post by Reg Griswold
Poor bob, so stuck in denial he can't even consider the possibility
that big pharma is responsible for causing disease.

http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/970409/cia_wp.html
There are several good and well written reports including one that
rules out infectious agents and points out that 125,000 us troops and
9,000 british troops were exposed to mustard gas and sarin which the
US destroyed the Iraq's ammo storage facility at Khamisiyah.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm\
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

The page cannot be found.

by dropping the "/" on the end, it comes out to a page citing mercola
as an authority. carole really doesn't want people to see the
nonsense she believes.
mercola, whale.to, rense, and herself four large false authorities,
mercola is usually also circular references to more of his articles
about the same subject, not peer reviewed and basically based upon a
post hoc fallacy.

Post by Ernie

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

Face it, carole. You don't know what you're talking about.

squalene is a naturally occurring substance produced in small
quantities in the human liver. It is used in lots of products
including skin care and cosmetics.
Carole made an idiot out of by mercola. it doesn't get much better
than this.
I would bet if one looked hard enough at mercola pages products he
sells might even be found to contain squalene.
mercola is a silly man, and carole is an even more silly woman.

People who looked at carole's Linkedin profile also looked at Jan Drew's
and Tim Bolen's. LOL!

http://au.linkedin.com/pub/carole-hubbard/62/5a0/323

[Clayton]

Post by Bob Officer
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 06:41:30 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Ernie

Post by Ernie

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:04:31 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:14:12 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?
carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!

IIRC GWS, was suspected to be caused by a infection carried by a sand
mite. The parasite was carried on the skin and the belongings of
returning GIs. The infections then spread to family members, carried
by the mites.

Post by Woody
carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist."

rense? The same source which claims the Queen of England is a
reptile? Have you no shame carole?
http://www.google.com/search?q=everything+in+the+internet+is+true
http://everythingontheinternetistrue.com/
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Proof_that_everything_on_the_internet_is_true

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/gulf_war_syndrome/GWS_and_Vaccines.html
"French troops, who did not receive the same massive drug cocktails as
their American and British counterparts, have not suffered the same
incidence of Gulf war syndrome. "

The causal agent of GWS initially and until about 1998 was thought to
be a parasite transmited by a small mite.

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.asanltr.com/ASANews-97/poxvaccines.htm
"A number of troops who were not sent to the conflict, but who were
injected with the same group of vaccines, have shown the same symptoms
and trends as those claiming to have the GWS. The troops were
designated as backups that were prepared, but never deployed.
"Prior to these reports, many people, including scientists and medical
professionals, believed that chemical exposures from distant
ammunition dumps, sporadic detection of chemical detectors and even
the extensive oil fires might be responsible for the GWS. While ASA
was in Kuwait, they spoke with several of the doctors and asked if
there was any evidence of symptoms similar to the GWS in the Kuwaiti
population. No such clustering of such symptoms has been noted, which
questions the effect of exposure to these chemicals as a cause. "

Additionally, the other possible agents were Sarin nerve gas which
was detected by British, Czech, and France. and the PB tablets used
to counteract the nerve agent rather than point to an infectious
agent.
RAC-GWVI Report 2008, p. 1 (PDF p. 11)
www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA491742

Post by Reg Griswold
Poor bob, so stuck in denial he can't even consider the possibility
that big pharma is responsible for causing disease.

http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/970409/cia_wp.html
There are several good and well written reports including one that
rules out infectious agents and points out that 125,000 us troops and
9,000 british troops were exposed to mustard gas and sarin which the
US destroyed the Iraq's ammo storage facility at Khamisiyah.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm\
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

The page cannot be found.

by dropping the "/" on the end, it comes out to a page citing mercola
as an authority. carole really doesn't want people to see the
nonsense she believes.
mercola, whale.to, rense, and herself four large false authorities,
mercola is usually also circular references to more of his articles
about the same subject, not peer reviewed and basically based upon a
post hoc fallacy.

Post by Ernie

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

Face it, carole. You don't know what you're talking about.

squalene is a naturally occurring substance produced in small
quantities in the human liver. It is used in lots of products
including skin care and cosmetics.
Carole made an idiot out of by mercola. it doesn't get much better
than this.
I would bet if one looked hard enough at mercola pages products he
sells might even be found to contain squalene.
mercola is a silly man, and carole is an even more silly woman.

What's it like to be a pharmaceutical pawn Jack?

All the alties in mha agree that you are a pharmaceutical pawn,
because there is no other reason for you to contribute to a topic
where you know absulutely NOTHING!!

Clayton


Harold and Kumer Interrogation scene

[Bob Officer]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 11:22:46 +1000, in misc.health.alternative,

Post by Clayton

Post by Bob Officer
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 06:41:30 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Ernie

Post by Ernie

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:04:31 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:14:12 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?
carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!

IIRC GWS, was suspected to be caused by a infection carried by a sand
mite. The parasite was carried on the skin and the belongings of
returning GIs. The infections then spread to family members, carried
by the mites.

Post by Woody
carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist."

rense? The same source which claims the Queen of England is a
reptile? Have you no shame carole?
http://www.google.com/search?q=everything+in+the+internet+is+true
http://everythingontheinternetistrue.com/
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Proof_that_everything_on_the_internet_is_true

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/gulf_war_syndrome/GWS_and_Vaccines.html
"French troops, who did not receive the same massive drug cocktails as
their American and British counterparts, have not suffered the same
incidence of Gulf war syndrome. "

The causal agent of GWS initially and until about 1998 was thought to
be a parasite transmited by a small mite.

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.asanltr.com/ASANews-97/poxvaccines.htm
"A number of troops who were not sent to the conflict, but who were
injected with the same group of vaccines, have shown the same symptoms
and trends as those claiming to have the GWS. The troops were
designated as backups that were prepared, but never deployed.
"Prior to these reports, many people, including scientists and medical
professionals, believed that chemical exposures from distant
ammunition dumps, sporadic detection of chemical detectors and even
the extensive oil fires might be responsible for the GWS. While ASA
was in Kuwait, they spoke with several of the doctors and asked if
there was any evidence of symptoms similar to the GWS in the Kuwaiti
population. No such clustering of such symptoms has been noted, which
questions the effect of exposure to these chemicals as a cause. "

Additionally, the other possible agents were Sarin nerve gas which
was detected by British, Czech, and France. and the PB tablets used
to counteract the nerve agent rather than point to an infectious
agent.
RAC-GWVI Report 2008, p. 1 (PDF p. 11)
www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA491742

Post by Reg Griswold
Poor bob, so stuck in denial he can't even consider the possibility
that big pharma is responsible for causing disease.

http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/970409/cia_wp.html
There are several good and well written reports including one that
rules out infectious agents and points out that 125,000 us troops and
9,000 british troops were exposed to mustard gas and sarin which the
US destroyed the Iraq's ammo storage facility at Khamisiyah.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm\
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

The page cannot be found.

by dropping the "/" on the end, it comes out to a page citing mercola
as an authority. carole really doesn't want people to see the
nonsense she believes.
mercola, whale.to, rense, and herself four large false authorities,
mercola is usually also circular references to more of his articles
about the same subject, not peer reviewed and basically based upon a
post hoc fallacy.

Post by Ernie

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

Face it, carole. You don't know what you're talking about.

squalene is a naturally occurring substance produced in small
quantities in the human liver. It is used in lots of products
including skin care and cosmetics.
Carole made an idiot out of by mercola. it doesn't get much better
than this.
I would bet if one looked hard enough at mercola pages products he
sells might even be found to contain squalene.
mercola is a silly man, and carole is an even more silly woman.

What's it like to be a pharmaceutical pawn Jack?
All the alties in mha agree that you are a pharmaceutical pawn,
because there is no other reason for you to contribute to a topic
where you know absulutely NOTHING!!
Clayton

Carole everyone else recognizes you and your socks. there seems to
only one altie here and that you.

The more noise you make about it the sillier you appear.

Don't count bolen as anything, he is a wish to be paid hack writer
who has no qualification at all.

[Bob Officer]

On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:54:05 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

Back to mercola, carole. you do know he is one of the people that
sells things for a very large profit and has been connected with Co$
and Oprah, and has been caught making false statements. Not really
the best authority to try to refer for information.

In this case, mercola brings out his fakery, and works on people's
fears and starts abusing "squalene" trying to turn a natural and safe
product into a monster.

Squalene a naturally produced substance by the human body, the many
plants and animals.

http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/706264/SQUALANE/
<cite>
About SQUALANE: Squalene is a naturally occurring lipid in both
plants and animals.
</cite>

http://www.squalane.com/
Here is a company selling a longevity product made from Shark oil.

Squalene is also found in olive oil.

This is another case where carole has just failed to preform due
diligence in research.

Just another reason to ignore carole and her host of sock puppets.

[Woody]

Post by Bob Officer
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:54:05 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

Back to mercola, carole. you do know he is one of the people that
sells things for a very large profit and has been connected with Co$
and Oprah, and has been caught making false statements. Not really
the best authority to try to refer for information.
In this case, mercola brings out his fakery, and works on people's
fears and starts abusing "squalene" trying to turn a natural and safe
product into a monster.
Squalene a naturally produced substance by the human body, the many
plants and animals.
http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/706264/SQUALANE/
<cite>
About SQUALANE: Squalene is a naturally occurring lipid in both
plants and animals.
</cite>
http://www.squalane.com/
Here is a company selling a longevity product made from Shark oil.
Squalene is also found in olive oil.
This is another case where carole has just failed to preform due
diligence in research.
Just another reason to ignore carole and her host of sock puppets.

carole <-- an idiot, and her own words have made her so.

[Reg Griswold]

Post by Bob Officer
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:54:05 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

Back to mercola, carole. you do know he is one of the people that
sells things for a very large profit and has been connected with Co$
and Oprah, and has been caught making false statements. Not really
the best authority to try to refer for information.

You can't just rule out Co$ without examining each one of their planks
or theories. Some have good substance, some maybe not so reputable.

Post by Bob Officer
In this case, mercola brings out his fakery, and works on people's
fears and starts abusing "squalene" trying to turn a natural and safe
product into a monster.

I don't rule people out based on one idiocyncrasy.
Most people have their pet theories which they follow to the point
where they fail - like that book (whats it called?) where people rise
to their level of incompetency within an organisation.

And Fred, you've risen to your level of incompetency within usenet.

Post by Bob Officer
Squalene a naturally produced substance by the human body, the many
plants and animals.
http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/706264/SQUALANE/
<cite>
About SQUALANE: Squalene is a naturally occurring lipid in both
plants and animals.
</cite>

Seems to have different effects depending on whether it is taken in
via digestory tract or injected via bloodstream. Eg 1 ok eg2 not ok.

Post by Bob Officer
http://www.squalane.com/
Here is a company selling a longevity product made from Shark oil.
Squalene is also found in olive oil.
This is another case where carole has just failed to preform due
diligence in research.
Just another reason to ignore carole and her host of sock puppets.

As I said before Fred, depending on how it is taken into the system -
ok via digestory system.

Poor Fred, unable to cope with basic concepts of absorption via
digestion vs injection.


Reg

"Trust us, we're experts!"

[Bob Officer]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:44:09 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:54:05 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

Back to mercola, carole. you do know he is one of the people that
sells things for a very large profit and has been connected with Co$
and Oprah, and has been caught making false statements. Not really
the best authority to try to refer for information.

You can't just rule out Co$ without examining each one of their planks
or theories. Some have good substance, some maybe not so reputable.

Which one can that be, the entire C0$ cult is based on a fantasy
concocted by a third rate fiction writer. Unless you really believe
in space aliens being ear bugs?

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
In this case, mercola brings out his fakery, and works on people's
fears and starts abusing "squalene" trying to turn a natural and safe
product into a monster.

I don't rule people out based on one idiocyncrasy.

It isn't an idiosyncrasy it is a lie, carole.

Post by Reg Griswold
Most people have their pet theories which they follow to the point
where they fail - like that book (whats it called?) where people rise
to their level of incompetency within an organisation.

This isn't a pet theory, it is a fact.

Post by Reg Griswold
And Fred, you've risen to your level of incompetency within usenet.

Post by Bob Officer
Squalene a naturally produced substance by the human body, the many
plants and animals.
http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/706264/SQUALANE/
<cite>
About SQUALANE: Squalene is a naturally occurring lipid in both
plants and animals.
</cite>

Seems to have different effects depending on whether it is taken in
via digestory tract or injected via bloodstream. Eg 1 ok eg2 not ok.

Seems according to what authority? Reference paper?

I guess you don't understand that Squalene is found in blood serum as
a natural occurrence.

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
http://www.squalane.com/
Here is a company selling a longevity product made from Shark oil.
Squalene is also found in olive oil.
This is another case where carole has just failed to preform due
diligence in research.
Just another reason to ignore carole and her host of sock puppets.

As I said before Fred, depending on how it is taken into the system -
ok via digestory system.
Poor Fred, unable to cope with basic concepts of absorption via
digestion vs injection.

Actually you in the dark and lost as usual, Carole.

[Lu]

Post by Bob Officer
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:44:09 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:54:05 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

Back to mercola, carole. you do know he is one of the people that
sells things for a very large profit and has been connected with Co$
and Oprah, and has been caught making false statements. Not really
the best authority to try to refer for information.

You can't just rule out Co$ without examining each one of their planks
or theories. Some have good substance, some maybe not so reputable.

Which one can that be, the entire C0$ cult is based on a fantasy
concocted by a third rate fiction writer. Unless you really believe
in space aliens being ear bugs?

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
In this case, mercola brings out his fakery, and works on people's
fears and starts abusing "squalene" trying to turn a natural and safe
product into a monster.

I don't rule people out based on one idiocyncrasy.

It isn't an idiosyncrasy it is a lie, carole.

Post by Reg Griswold
Most people have their pet theories which they follow to the point
where they fail - like that book (whats it called?) where people rise
to their level of incompetency within an organisation.

This isn't a pet theory, it is a fact.

Post by Reg Griswold
And Fred, you've risen to your level of incompetency within usenet.

Post by Bob Officer
Squalene a naturally produced substance by the human body, the many
plants and animals.
http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/706264/SQUALANE/
<cite>
About SQUALANE: Squalene is a naturally occurring lipid in both
plants and animals.
</cite>

Seems to have different effects depending on whether it is taken in
via digestory tract or injected via bloodstream. Eg 1 ok eg2 not ok.

Seems according to what authority? Reference paper?
I guess you don't understand that Squalene is found in blood serum as
a natural occurrence.

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
http://www.squalane.com/
Here is a company selling a longevity product made from Shark oil.
Squalene is also found in olive oil.
This is another case where carole has just failed to preform due
diligence in research.
Just another reason to ignore carole and her host of sock puppets.

As I said before Fred, depending on how it is taken into the system -
ok via digestory system.
Poor Fred, unable to cope with basic concepts of absorption via
digestion vs injection.

Actually you in the dark and lost as usual, Carole.

She can't even remember her own name.

--
Lu

[Clayton]

Post by Bob Officer
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:44:09 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:54:05 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

Back to mercola, carole. you do know he is one of the people that
sells things for a very large profit and has been connected with Co$
and Oprah, and has been caught making false statements. Not really
the best authority to try to refer for information.

You can't just rule out Co$ without examining each one of their planks
or theories. Some have good substance, some maybe not so reputable.

Which one can that be, the entire C0$ cult is based on a fantasy
concocted by a third rate fiction writer. Unless you really believe
in space aliens being ear bugs?

What is based on fantasy is the idea that big pharma has people's
health as their number one priority.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
In this case, mercola brings out his fakery, and works on people's
fears and starts abusing "squalene" trying to turn a natural and safe
product into a monster.

I don't rule people out based on one idiocyncrasy.

It isn't an idiosyncrasy it is a lie, carole.

The truth of anything is usually well hidden with so many cover
stories that would put mother goose to shame.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Reg Griswold
Most people have their pet theories which they follow to the point
where they fail - like that book (whats it called?) where people rise
to their level of incompetency within an organisation.

This isn't a pet theory, it is a fact.

I still say you've reached your level of incompetency Fred.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Reg Griswold
And Fred, you've risen to your level of incompetency within usenet.

Post by Bob Officer
Squalene a naturally produced substance by the human body, the many
plants and animals.
http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/706264/SQUALANE/
<cite>
About SQUALANE: Squalene is a naturally occurring lipid in both
plants and animals.
</cite>

Seems to have different effects depending on whether it is taken in
via digestory tract or injected via bloodstream. Eg 1 ok eg2 not ok.

Seems according to what authority? Reference paper?

Go to a search engine - type in SQUALINE + INJECTED

Post by Bob Officer
I guess you don't understand that Squalene is found in blood serum as
a natural occurrence.

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
http://www.squalane.com/
Here is a company selling a longevity product made from Shark oil.
Squalene is also found in olive oil.
This is another case where carole has just failed to preform due
diligence in research.
Just another reason to ignore carole and her host of sock puppets.

As I said before Fred, depending on how it is taken into the system -
ok via digestory system.
Poor Fred, unable to cope with basic concepts of absorption via
digestion vs injection.

Actually you in the dark and lost as usual, Carole.

Poor pharmaceutical pawn who hasn't got two brain cells spare after
absorbing and regurgitating all his information parrot fashion.


Clayton

"When life gives you lemons, make lemonade." - unknown

[Bob Officer]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:48:54 +1000, in misc.health.alternative,

Post by Clayton

Post by Bob Officer
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:44:09 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:54:05 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

Back to mercola, carole. you do know he is one of the people that
sells things for a very large profit and has been connected with Co$
and Oprah, and has been caught making false statements. Not really
the best authority to try to refer for information.

You can't just rule out Co$ without examining each one of their planks
or theories. Some have good substance, some maybe not so reputable.

Which one can that be, the entire C0$ cult is based on a fantasy
concocted by a third rate fiction writer. Unless you really believe
in space aliens being ear bugs?

What is based on fantasy is the idea that big pharma has people's
health as their number one priority.

I Notice you again moved goal post carole, once the entire basis of
the cult was exposed. You failed to point any of the C0$ planks which
have any substance.

Post by Clayton

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
In this case, mercola brings out his fakery, and works on people's
fears and starts abusing "squalene" trying to turn a natural and safe
product into a monster.

I don't rule people out based on one idiocyncrasy.

It isn't an idiosyncrasy it is a lie, carole.

The truth of anything is usually well hidden with so many cover
stories that would put mother goose to shame.

But it still isn't an idiosyncrasy, carole. It is based upon a lie
concocted by the third rate ScFi/Fantasy writer, which according to
all meal records from the navy may have suffered multiple mental
breakdowns before he was discharged. HE war record show him being
successful at using depth charges on humpback whales feeding and
sinking a mexican fishing ship inside mexican territorial waters.

Post by Clayton

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Reg Griswold
Most people have their pet theories which they follow to the point
where they fail - like that book (whats it called?) where people rise
to their level of incompetency within an organisation.

This isn't a pet theory, it is a fact.

I still say you've reached your level of incompetency Fred.

Facts are facts no matter which side states them, Carole.

Post by Clayton

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Reg Griswold
And Fred, you've risen to your level of incompetency within usenet.

Post by Bob Officer
Squalene a naturally produced substance by the human body, the many
plants and animals.
http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/706264/SQUALANE/
<cite>
About SQUALANE: Squalene is a naturally occurring lipid in both
plants and animals.
</cite>

Seems to have different effects depending on whether it is taken in
via digestory tract or injected via bloodstream. Eg 1 ok eg2 not ok.

Seems according to what authority? Reference paper?

Go to a search engine - type in SQUALINE + INJECTED

and guess what there is no differences according to research papers
which were published by reputable editors.

Post by Clayton

Post by Bob Officer
I guess you don't understand that Squalene is found in blood serum as
a natural occurrence.

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
http://www.squalane.com/
Here is a company selling a longevity product made from Shark oil.
Squalene is also found in olive oil.
This is another case where carole has just failed to preform due
diligence in research.
Just another reason to ignore carole and her host of sock puppets.

As I said before Fred, depending on how it is taken into the system -
ok via digestory system.
Poor Fred, unable to cope with basic concepts of absorption via
digestion vs injection.

Actually you're in the dark and lost as usual, Carole.

Poor pharmaceutical pawn who hasn't got two brain cells spare after
absorbing and regurgitating all his information parrot fashion.

I asked for references to back Carole's claim, and she tells me a few
search terms to use.

Failure to back a claim with references.

Squalene is a naturally occurring substance found in the blood and
produced in the human body. It also is found in fish and plant which
people eat.

[Lu]

Post by Clayton

Post by Bob Officer
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:44:09 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:54:05 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.

Back to mercola, carole. you do know he is one of the people that
sells things for a very large profit and has been connected with Co$
and Oprah, and has been caught making false statements. Not really
the best authority to try to refer for information.

You can't just rule out Co$ without examining each one of their planks
or theories. Some have good substance, some maybe not so reputable.

Which one can that be, the entire C0$ cult is based on a fantasy
concocted by a third rate fiction writer. Unless you really believe
in space aliens being ear bugs?

What is based on fantasy is the idea that big pharma has people's
health as their number one priority.

Where did you ever get this idea that the pharmaceutical companies are in
business mainly to benefit the public?

Post by Clayton

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
In this case, mercola brings out his fakery, and works on people's
fears and starts abusing "squalene" trying to turn a natural and safe
product into a monster.

I don't rule people out based on one idiocyncrasy.

It isn't an idiosyncrasy it is a lie, carole.

The truth of anything is usually well hidden with so many cover
stories that would put mother goose to shame.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Reg Griswold
Most people have their pet theories which they follow to the point
where they fail - like that book (whats it called?) where people rise
to their level of incompetency within an organisation.

This isn't a pet theory, it is a fact.

I still say you've reached your level of incompetency Fred.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Reg Griswold
And Fred, you've risen to your level of incompetency within usenet.

Post by Bob Officer
Squalene a naturally produced substance by the human body, the many
plants and animals.
http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/706264/SQUALANE/
<cite>
About SQUALANE: Squalene is a naturally occurring lipid in both
plants and animals.
</cite>

Seems to have different effects depending on whether it is taken in
via digestory tract or injected via bloodstream. Eg 1 ok eg2 not ok.

Seems according to what authority? Reference paper?

Go to a search engine - type in SQUALINE + INJECTED

Post by Bob Officer
I guess you don't understand that Squalene is found in blood serum as
a natural occurrence.

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
http://www.squalane.com/
Here is a company selling a longevity product made from Shark oil.
Squalene is also found in olive oil.
This is another case where carole has just failed to preform due
diligence in research.
Just another reason to ignore carole and her host of sock puppets.

As I said before Fred, depending on how it is taken into the system -
ok via digestory system.
Poor Fred, unable to cope with basic concepts of absorption via
digestion vs injection.

Actually you in the dark and lost as usual, Carole.

Poor pharmaceutical pawn who hasn't got two brain cells spare after
absorbing and regurgitating all his information parrot fashion.
Clayton
"When life gives you lemons, make lemonade." - unknown

--
Lu

[BruceS]

On 08/09/2013 01:48 AM, Clayton wrote:
<snip>

Carole, I haven't seen you reply to my requests. Would you mind
terribly just standardizing on one sock puppet, or better yet making all
your posts using your own name? You're not fooling anyone, you know.

Also, while we're at it, there's an attempt underway (OK, so I started
it) to get you together with some like-minded people on Usenet. What
would you say to a gathering of people with similar mental situations?
ISTM that would be better for you than all this talking to yourself and
being mocked by everyone else. You'd have a chance to interact with
others more like yourself. Interested? I think we're going to try to
get Ed Conrad to host the gathering, and do what we can to get F. David
Harrison, Graham Cooper, Brad Guth, and others to join in.

[Woody]

On 08/09/2013 01:48 AM, Clayton wrote: <snip>
Carole, I haven't seen you reply to my requests. Would you mind
terribly just standardizing on one sock puppet, or better yet making
all your posts using your own name? You're not fooling anyone, you
know.
Also, while we're at it, there's an attempt underway (OK, so I
started it) to get you together with some like-minded people on
Usenet. What would you say to a gathering of people with similar
mental situations? ISTM that would be better for you than all this
talking to yourself and being mocked by everyone else. You'd have a
chance to interact with others more like yourself. Interested? I
think we're going to try to get Ed Conrad to host the gathering, and
do what we can to get F. David Harrison, Graham Cooper, Brad Guth,
and others to join in.

I'm not familiar with those names you mention, but my hunch is that
carole will balk because she is intent on her propagating her nonsense
in mha. She's stated her affinity for mha in the past, despite her lack
of full understanding of its charter.

[george152]

Post by Woody
I'm not familiar with those names you mention, but my hunch is that
carole will balk because she is intent on her propagating her nonsense
in mha. She's stated her affinity for mha in the past, despite her lack
of full understanding of its charter.

Some of those names are bigger kooks than carole.
It would be an all in kook fight with each trying to outkook the other

[BruceS]

Post by george152

Post by Woody
I'm not familiar with those names you mention, but my hunch is that
carole will balk because she is intent on her propagating her nonsense
in mha. She's stated her affinity for mha in the past, despite her lack
of full understanding of its charter.

Some of those names are bigger kooks than carole.
It would be an all in kook fight with each trying to outkook the other

I was all set to explain, but I think George has clarified it perfectly.
Although I'm not sure about "bigger kooks than Carole". After all,
she has set the bar pretty high.

[Bob Officer]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 15:54:56 -0600, in misc.health.alternative,

Post by BruceS
<snip>
Carole, I haven't seen you reply to my requests. Would you mind
terribly just standardizing on one sock puppet, or better yet making all
your posts using your own name? You're not fooling anyone, you know.
Also, while we're at it, there's an attempt underway (OK, so I started
it) to get you together with some like-minded people on Usenet. What
would you say to a gathering of people with similar mental situations?
ISTM that would be better for you than all this talking to yourself and
being mocked by everyone else. You'd have a chance to interact with
others more like yourself. Interested? I think we're going to try to
get Ed Conrad to host the gathering, and do what we can to get F. David
Harrison, Graham Cooper, Brad Guth, and others to join in.

Can Graham Copper bring the snack foods? I understand he makes killer
snacks.

[Woody]

Post by Bob Officer
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 15:54:56 -0600, in misc.health.alternative,

Post by BruceS
<snip>
Carole, I haven't seen you reply to my requests. Would you mind
terribly just standardizing on one sock puppet, or better yet making all
your posts using your own name? You're not fooling anyone, you know.
Also, while we're at it, there's an attempt underway (OK, so I started
it) to get you together with some like-minded people on Usenet. What
would you say to a gathering of people with similar mental situations?
ISTM that would be better for you than all this talking to yourself and
being mocked by everyone else. You'd have a chance to interact with
others more like yourself. Interested? I think we're going to try to
get Ed Conrad to host the gathering, and do what we can to get F. David
Harrison, Graham Cooper, Brad Guth, and others to join in.

Can Graham Copper bring the snack foods? I understand he makes killer
snacks.

Are many of them made with Graham crackers?

[Bob Officer]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 22:33:38 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Bob Officer
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 15:54:56 -0600, in misc.health.alternative,

Post by BruceS
<snip>
Carole, I haven't seen you reply to my requests. Would you mind
terribly just standardizing on one sock puppet, or better yet making all
your posts using your own name? You're not fooling anyone, you know.
Also, while we're at it, there's an attempt underway (OK, so I started
it) to get you together with some like-minded people on Usenet. What
would you say to a gathering of people with similar mental situations?
ISTM that would be better for you than all this talking to yourself and
being mocked by everyone else. You'd have a chance to interact with
others more like yourself. Interested? I think we're going to try to
get Ed Conrad to host the gathering, and do what we can to get F. David
Harrison, Graham Cooper, Brad Guth, and others to join in.

Can Graham Copper bring the snack foods? I understand he makes killer
snacks.

Are many of them made with Graham crackers?

Graham spent some time in a 'guest' facility after threatening to
contaminate food stuffs with rat poison. Bit hazy of the exact case
results, but at the time he was deemed mentally unfit, and was
released after some therapy.

[Bob Casanova]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 22:33:38 -0400, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Bob Officer
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 15:54:56 -0600, in misc.health.alternative,

Post by BruceS
<snip>
Carole, I haven't seen you reply to my requests. Would you mind
terribly just standardizing on one sock puppet, or better yet making all
your posts using your own name? You're not fooling anyone, you know.
Also, while we're at it, there's an attempt underway (OK, so I started
it) to get you together with some like-minded people on Usenet. What
would you say to a gathering of people with similar mental situations?
ISTM that would be better for you than all this talking to yourself and
being mocked by everyone else. You'd have a chance to interact with
others more like yourself. Interested? I think we're going to try to
get Ed Conrad to host the gathering, and do what we can to get F. David
Harrison, Graham Cooper, Brad Guth, and others to join in.

Can Graham Copper bring the snack foods? I understand he makes killer
snacks.

Are many of them made with Graham crackers?

All of them, obviously; Graham is cracked.

[george152]

Post by Bob Officer
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 15:54:56 -0600, in misc.health.alternative,

Post by BruceS
<snip>
Carole, I haven't seen you reply to my requests. Would you mind
terribly just standardizing on one sock puppet, or better yet making all
your posts using your own name? You're not fooling anyone, you know.
Also, while we're at it, there's an attempt underway (OK, so I started
it) to get you together with some like-minded people on Usenet. What
would you say to a gathering of people with similar mental situations?
ISTM that would be better for you than all this talking to yourself and
being mocked by everyone else. You'd have a chance to interact with
others more like yourself. Interested? I think we're going to try to
get Ed Conrad to host the gathering, and do what we can to get F. David
Harrison, Graham Cooper, Brad Guth, and others to join in.

Can Graham Copper bring the snack foods? I understand he makes killer
snacks.

And tries to stock supermarket shelves with them

[Genelle]

Post by BruceS
<snip>
Carole, I haven't seen you reply to my requests. Would you mind
terribly just standardizing on one sock puppet, or better yet making all
your posts using your own name? You're not fooling anyone, you know.
Also, while we're at it, there's an attempt underway (OK, so I started
it) to get you together with some like-minded people on Usenet. What
would you say to a gathering of people with similar mental situations?
ISTM that would be better for you than all this talking to yourself and
being mocked by everyone else. You'd have a chance to interact with
others more like yourself. Interested? I think we're going to try to
get Ed Conrad to host the gathering, and do what we can to get F. David
Harrison, Graham Cooper, Brad Guth, and others to join in.

I only ever notice you pharmaceutical pawns complainining about what
you think is altie socks, no complaints about pharmaceutical socks.

Why is that?

Genelle
Health & Beauty expert

"Beauty is as beauty does"

[george152]

Post by Genelle
I only ever notice you pharmaceutical pawns complainining about what
you think is altie socks, no complaints about pharmaceutical socks.
Why is that?

Because there is no such thing carole as, by now, you know
For example most of us have woollen or cotton socks

[Ernie]

Post by george152

Post by Genelle
I only ever notice you pharmaceutical pawns complainining about what
you think is altie socks, no complaints about pharmaceutical socks.
Why is that?

Because there is no such thing carole as, by now, you know
For example most of us have woollen or cotton socks

carole's problem is that she refuses to acknowledge the difference
between a sockpuppet and a pseudonym.

Acknowledging the difference would render her point above moot, a point
which she has raised several times in the past.

Since carole never makes arguments based on fact or otherwise credible
evidence, she resorts to repeating false arguments, even though some may
involve drawn out dramatizations.

A pseuydonym is a name that a person assumes which differs from his or
her original or true name, when an individual feels the context and
content of the exchange offer no reason, legal or otherwise, to provide
their given or legal name.

Pseudonyms include stage names, screen names, pen names, nicknames, or
aliases. They are adopted to hide an individual's real identity.

A sockpuppet, on the other hand, is a fake persona used deceptively to
discuss or comment on oneself or one's work, particularly in an online
discussion group.

The difference between the use of a pseudonym and the creation of a
sockpuppet is that the sockpuppet poses as an independent third-party,
unaffiliated with the puppeteer.

A few months may go by, and then carole will once again claim that there
are sockpuppets in use by pharma shills in the ng, which exonerate her
own use of sockpuppets. Just another aspect of carole's ongoing
manifestation of online pathology.

[BruceS]

Post by Ernie

Post by george152

Post by Genelle
I only ever notice you pharmaceutical pawns complainining about what
you think is altie socks, no complaints about pharmaceutical socks.
Why is that?

Well, Carole, for my part I don't know of any pharmaceutical (or
pro-pharma, or anti-altie) socks. Can you enlighten us, and give a few
names that you believe are being used by the same person in these groups?

Post by Ernie

Post by george152
Because there is no such thing carole as, by now, you know
For example most of us have woollen or cotton socks

carole's problem is that she refuses to acknowledge the difference
between a sockpuppet and a pseudonym.
Acknowledging the difference would render her point above moot, a point
which she has raised several times in the past.
Since carole never makes arguments based on fact or otherwise credible
evidence, she resorts to repeating false arguments, even though some may
involve drawn out dramatizations.
A pseuydonym is a name that a person assumes which differs from his or
her original or true name, when an individual feels the context and
content of the exchange offer no reason, legal or otherwise, to provide
their given or legal name.
Pseudonyms include stage names, screen names, pen names, nicknames, or
aliases. They are adopted to hide an individual's real identity.
A sockpuppet, on the other hand, is a fake persona used deceptively to
discuss or comment on oneself or one's work, particularly in an online
discussion group.
The difference between the use of a pseudonym and the creation of a
sockpuppet is that the sockpuppet poses as an independent third-party,
unaffiliated with the puppeteer.

Well said. I have (IIRC) used three names in Usenet. Many years ago I
used my full name. More recently, I've used the one I have here, which
is my correct first name plus a letter whose purpose I'll leave to your
imaginations. For a while, in a single newsgroup, I used a third name
specifically so I could discuss the topic of that newsgroup (an illness)
without connecting it with this username. I simply didn't want the
sympathy so many pour out for sick people. I found that distasteful.
None of these three were in any sense sock puppets.

Post by Ernie
A few months may go by, and then carole will once again claim that there
are sockpuppets in use by pharma shills in the ng, which exonerate her
own use of sockpuppets. Just another aspect of carole's ongoing
manifestation of online pathology.

[Lu]

Post by Genelle

Post by BruceS
<snip>
Carole, I haven't seen you reply to my requests. Would you mind
terribly just standardizing on one sock puppet, or better yet making all
your posts using your own name? You're not fooling anyone, you know.
Also, while we're at it, there's an attempt underway (OK, so I started
it) to get you together with some like-minded people on Usenet. What
would you say to a gathering of people with similar mental situations?
ISTM that would be better for you than all this talking to yourself and
being mocked by everyone else. You'd have a chance to interact with
others more like yourself. Interested? I think we're going to try to
get Ed Conrad to host the gathering, and do what we can to get F. David
Harrison, Graham Cooper, Brad Guth, and others to join in.

I only ever notice you pharmaceutical pawns complainining about what
you think is altie socks, no complaints about pharmaceutical socks.

Carole is lying about all those altie socks not being her. Then she lies
about pharmaceutical pawns without providing any evidence that there are any
posting here. Her third lie is not mentioning Jan and her constant
complaining about socks and nyms and her own short memory as to her own years
of complaining.

Post by Genelle
Why is that?

You mean you think all this mockery of you, your socks and your lies is
complaining? Keep providing us with irrefutable evidence of who is posting,
in your headers and your posts and we will keep laughing at and mocking you.


I do believe that the only posters here who really do complain about socks
is you and jan, both professed alties, and jan seems to have deserted you.

Post by Genelle
Genelle
Health & Beauty expert
"Beauty is as beauty does"

--
Lu

[george152]

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

[BruceS]

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

[Bob Casanova]

On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 09:59:17 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You might be able to write a macro to do that (damfino if
TBird supports macros), but even if it's possible you'd have
to add each sockpuppet manually as you discovered them.

[george152]

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You could just killfile each one as it comes up.

[BruceS]

Post by george152

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You could just killfile each one as it comes up.

I don't mind *reading* here posts; I find her kookery entertaining, just
as I do with some other kooks. It just seemed like it would be helpful
to make her nyms even more transparent. Bob has a suggestion, but it
sounds like too much work for such a lazy person. Maybe an appeal to
Carole herself would work.

Carole, would you mind putting all your posts under your own name? You
know by now that you're not fooling anyone, and it just makes you look
that much sillier. Please?

I won't hold my breath, but maybe she'll have a brief moment of clarity,
and understand why sock puppetry is not in her interests.

[Bob Casanova]

On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:20:46 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You could just killfile each one as it comes up.

I don't mind *reading* here posts; I find her kookery entertaining, just
as I do with some other kooks. It just seemed like it would be helpful
to make her nyms even more transparent. Bob has a suggestion, but it
sounds like too much work for such a lazy person. Maybe an appeal to
Carole herself would work.
Carole, would you mind putting all your posts under your own name?

Yeah, good luck with *that* one...

Post by BruceS
You
know by now that you're not fooling anyone, and it just makes you look
that much sillier. Please?
I won't hold my breath, but maybe she'll have a brief moment of clarity,
and understand why sock puppetry is not in her interests.

Maybe she's relying on the "silent lurkers", and hoping they
can't read for comprehension. ;-)

[BruceS]

Post by Bob Casanova
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:20:46 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You could just killfile each one as it comes up.

I don't mind *reading* here posts; I find her kookery entertaining, just
as I do with some other kooks. It just seemed like it would be helpful
to make her nyms even more transparent. Bob has a suggestion, but it
sounds like too much work for such a lazy person. Maybe an appeal to
Carole herself would work.
Carole, would you mind putting all your posts under your own name?

Yeah, good luck with *that* one...

Ooh, that won't work. You see, I don't believe in magic of any kind,
and that includes luck. Seriously, I have no expectation of getting any
cooperation from Carole on this. At best, I thought it might provoke a
round of vehement denials from her, possibly using several of her nyms
all pretending they're different people living in different places and
thinking different things. Even that would be a bit of a stretch, but I
hope I've amused a few people in the process.

Post by Bob Casanova

Post by BruceS
You
know by now that you're not fooling anyone, and it just makes you look
that much sillier. Please?
I won't hold my breath, but maybe she'll have a brief moment of clarity,
and understand why sock puppetry is not in her interests.

Maybe she's relying on the "silent lurkers", and hoping they
can't read for comprehension. ;-)

But if a person is unable to read for comprehension, aren't they most
likely already a follower of various woo? I guess a homeopath could
hope to convince a few astrologers or vitamin B addicts to switch
religions. In alt.support.cancer we had a whole spectrum of loons. One
claimed that you could cure your cancer by extracting juice from fresh
onions, and drinking that (half a cup?) every morning with nothing else
to dilute it. Another blamed colon cancer on shoes, while our most
persistent loon blamed excess iron and pushed chelation therapy. If
something had no empirical evidence to support something, you could be
sure *someone* would claim it as an effective remedy, kept hidden by The
Man aka Big Pharma. It was always amusing to watch these titans of
intellect collide. The same people who used mass hypnosis to make New
Yorkers think they'd seen aircraft on 9/11 (when really it was carefully
placed explosives that nobody had noticed) are also keeping the 200mpg
carburetor under wraps and forcing people to stay sick so they can sell
those people drugs.

[Bob Casanova]

On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:00:36 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by Bob Casanova
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:20:46 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You could just killfile each one as it comes up.

I don't mind *reading* here posts; I find her kookery entertaining, just
as I do with some other kooks. It just seemed like it would be helpful
to make her nyms even more transparent. Bob has a suggestion, but it
sounds like too much work for such a lazy person. Maybe an appeal to
Carole herself would work.
Carole, would you mind putting all your posts under your own name?

Yeah, good luck with *that* one...

Ooh, that won't work. You see, I don't believe in magic of any kind,
and that includes luck.

"Luck" is statistical clumping, and definitely occurs.

Post by BruceS
Seriously, I have no expectation of getting any
cooperation from Carole on this. At best, I thought it might provoke a
round of vehement denials from her, possibly using several of her nyms
all pretending they're different people living in different places and
thinking different things. Even that would be a bit of a stretch, but I
hope I've amused a few people in the process.

Post by Bob Casanova

Post by BruceS
You
know by now that you're not fooling anyone, and it just makes you look
that much sillier. Please?
I won't hold my breath, but maybe she'll have a brief moment of clarity,
and understand why sock puppetry is not in her interests.

Maybe she's relying on the "silent lurkers", and hoping they
can't read for comprehension. ;-)

But if a person is unable to read for comprehension, aren't they most
likely already a follower of various woo?

Sure.

Post by BruceS
I guess a homeopath could
hope to convince a few astrologers or vitamin B addicts to switch
religions. In alt.support.cancer we had a whole spectrum of loons. One
claimed that you could cure your cancer by extracting juice from fresh
onions, and drinking that (half a cup?) every morning with nothing else
to dilute it. Another blamed colon cancer on shoes, while our most
persistent loon blamed excess iron and pushed chelation therapy. If
something had no empirical evidence to support something, you could be
sure *someone* would claim it as an effective remedy, kept hidden by The
Man aka Big Pharma. It was always amusing to watch these titans of
intellect collide. The same people who used mass hypnosis to make New
Yorkers think they'd seen aircraft on 9/11 (when really it was carefully
placed explosives that nobody had noticed) are also keeping the 200mpg
carburetor under wraps and forcing people to stay sick so they can sell
those people drugs.

I think you've just supported my implied assertion, that
woo-woos aren't one-trick ponies, and tend to latch on to
just about and lunacy they encounter, *especially* if it
involves a gigantic conspiracy. And the only times I've seen
them collide is over contradictory lunacies.

[BruceS]

Post by Bob Casanova
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:00:36 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by Bob Casanova
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:20:46 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You could just killfile each one as it comes up.

I don't mind *reading* here posts; I find her kookery entertaining, just
as I do with some other kooks. It just seemed like it would be helpful
to make her nyms even more transparent. Bob has a suggestion, but it
sounds like too much work for such a lazy person. Maybe an appeal to
Carole herself would work.
Carole, would you mind putting all your posts under your own name?

Yeah, good luck with *that* one...

Ooh, that won't work. You see, I don't believe in magic of any kind,
and that includes luck.

"Luck" is statistical clumping, and definitely occurs.

Point taken. I'll concede that this does, in fact, occur. OTOH, on the
idea of lucky "streaks" (prior sequence of independent random events
predicting future independent random events---am I saying that right?),
or of any efficacy of wishing someone luck, I'll have to pass.

Post by Bob Casanova

Post by BruceS
Seriously, I have no expectation of getting any
cooperation from Carole on this. At best, I thought it might provoke a
round of vehement denials from her, possibly using several of her nyms
all pretending they're different people living in different places and
thinking different things. Even that would be a bit of a stretch, but I
hope I've amused a few people in the process.

Post by Bob Casanova

Post by BruceS
You
know by now that you're not fooling anyone, and it just makes you look
that much sillier. Please?
I won't hold my breath, but maybe she'll have a brief moment of clarity,
and understand why sock puppetry is not in her interests.

Maybe she's relying on the "silent lurkers", and hoping they
can't read for comprehension. ;-)

But if a person is unable to read for comprehension, aren't they most
likely already a follower of various woo?

Sure.

Post by BruceS
I guess a homeopath could
hope to convince a few astrologers or vitamin B addicts to switch
religions. In alt.support.cancer we had a whole spectrum of loons. One
claimed that you could cure your cancer by extracting juice from fresh
onions, and drinking that (half a cup?) every morning with nothing else
to dilute it. Another blamed colon cancer on shoes, while our most
persistent loon blamed excess iron and pushed chelation therapy. If
something had no empirical evidence to support something, you could be
sure *someone* would claim it as an effective remedy, kept hidden by The
Man aka Big Pharma. It was always amusing to watch these titans of
intellect collide. The same people who used mass hypnosis to make New
Yorkers think they'd seen aircraft on 9/11 (when really it was carefully
placed explosives that nobody had noticed) are also keeping the 200mpg
carburetor under wraps and forcing people to stay sick so they can sell
those people drugs.

I think you've just supported my implied assertion, that
woo-woos aren't one-trick ponies, and tend to latch on to
just about and lunacy they encounter, *especially* if it
involves a gigantic conspiracy. And the only times I've seen
them collide is over contradictory lunacies.

Yes, I think we agree on that, at least in part. It seems to usually be
some side point that gets them at each others' throats. For instance,
9/11 "inside job" folks can have a total love-fest about the twin towers
and building 7 being brought down by controlled demolition, but froth at
the mouths/keyboards over whether the whole thing was orchestrated by
one imaginary cabal or another.

[Bob Casanova]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 16:00:06 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by Bob Casanova
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:00:36 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by Bob Casanova
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:20:46 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You could just killfile each one as it comes up.

I don't mind *reading* here posts; I find her kookery entertaining, just
as I do with some other kooks. It just seemed like it would be helpful
to make her nyms even more transparent. Bob has a suggestion, but it
sounds like too much work for such a lazy person. Maybe an appeal to
Carole herself would work.
Carole, would you mind putting all your posts under your own name?

Yeah, good luck with *that* one...

Ooh, that won't work. You see, I don't believe in magic of any kind,
and that includes luck.

"Luck" is statistical clumping, and definitely occurs.

Point taken. I'll concede that this does, in fact, occur. OTOH, on the
idea of lucky "streaks" (prior sequence of independent random events
predicting future independent random events---am I saying that right?),
or of any efficacy of wishing someone luck, I'll have to pass.

True; the coin has no memory. But that doesn't preclude
statistical clumping, which is the very definition of "lucky
streak". I once watched a fair coin come up heads over 20
times in a row, even though each coin toss had the same 50%
probability of doing so. And was flipped onto concrete, not
caught by hand. Streaks *do* happen, even though they're
unpredictable.

Post by BruceS

Post by Bob Casanova

Post by BruceS
Seriously, I have no expectation of getting any
cooperation from Carole on this. At best, I thought it might provoke a
round of vehement denials from her, possibly using several of her nyms
all pretending they're different people living in different places and
thinking different things. Even that would be a bit of a stretch, but I
hope I've amused a few people in the process.

Post by Bob Casanova

Post by BruceS
You
know by now that you're not fooling anyone, and it just makes you look
that much sillier. Please?
I won't hold my breath, but maybe she'll have a brief moment of clarity,
and understand why sock puppetry is not in her interests.

Maybe she's relying on the "silent lurkers", and hoping they
can't read for comprehension. ;-)

But if a person is unable to read for comprehension, aren't they most
likely already a follower of various woo?

Sure.

Post by BruceS
I guess a homeopath could
hope to convince a few astrologers or vitamin B addicts to switch
religions. In alt.support.cancer we had a whole spectrum of loons. One
claimed that you could cure your cancer by extracting juice from fresh
onions, and drinking that (half a cup?) every morning with nothing else
to dilute it. Another blamed colon cancer on shoes, while our most
persistent loon blamed excess iron and pushed chelation therapy. If
something had no empirical evidence to support something, you could be
sure *someone* would claim it as an effective remedy, kept hidden by The
Man aka Big Pharma. It was always amusing to watch these titans of
intellect collide. The same people who used mass hypnosis to make New
Yorkers think they'd seen aircraft on 9/11 (when really it was carefully
placed explosives that nobody had noticed) are also keeping the 200mpg
carburetor under wraps and forcing people to stay sick so they can sell
those people drugs.

I think you've just supported my implied assertion, that
woo-woos aren't one-trick ponies, and tend to latch on to
just about and

"...any..." Duh...

Post by BruceS
lunacy they encounter, *especially* if it

Post by Bob Casanova
involves a gigantic conspiracy. And the only times I've seen
them collide is over contradictory lunacies.

Yes, I think we agree on that, at least in part. It seems to usually be
some side point that gets them at each others' throats. For instance,
9/11 "inside job" folks can have a total love-fest about the twin towers
and building 7 being brought down by controlled demolition, but froth at
the mouths/keyboards over whether the whole thing was orchestrated by
one imaginary cabal or another.

Yep.

[BruceS]

Post by Bob Casanova
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 16:00:06 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by Bob Casanova
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:00:36 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by Bob Casanova
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:20:46 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You could just killfile each one as it comes up.

I don't mind *reading* here posts; I find her kookery entertaining, just
as I do with some other kooks. It just seemed like it would be helpful
to make her nyms even more transparent. Bob has a suggestion, but it
sounds like too much work for such a lazy person. Maybe an appeal to
Carole herself would work.
Carole, would you mind putting all your posts under your own name?

Yeah, good luck with *that* one...

Ooh, that won't work. You see, I don't believe in magic of any kind,
and that includes luck.

"Luck" is statistical clumping, and definitely occurs.

Point taken. I'll concede that this does, in fact, occur. OTOH, on the
idea of lucky "streaks" (prior sequence of independent random events
predicting future independent random events---am I saying that right?),
or of any efficacy of wishing someone luck, I'll have to pass.

True; the coin has no memory. But that doesn't preclude
statistical clumping, which is the very definition of "lucky
streak". I once watched a fair coin come up heads over 20
times in a row, even though each coin toss had the same 50%
probability of doing so. And was flipped onto concrete, not
caught by hand. Streaks *do* happen, even though they're
unpredictable.

That's quite a series! My interpretation of "lucky streak" though is
more along the lines of "I'm on a lucky streak, I can't lose!" If it's
just about history, then no problem. It's the gamblers' use of it in
setting expectations that I reject. We're just arguing from different
interpretations of the term, not from underlying concept, on which we agree.

<snip>

[Bob Casanova]

On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:25:38 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by Bob Casanova
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 16:00:06 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by Bob Casanova
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:00:36 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by Bob Casanova
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:20:46 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You could just killfile each one as it comes up.

I don't mind *reading* here posts; I find her kookery entertaining, just
as I do with some other kooks. It just seemed like it would be helpful
to make her nyms even more transparent. Bob has a suggestion, but it
sounds like too much work for such a lazy person. Maybe an appeal to
Carole herself would work.
Carole, would you mind putting all your posts under your own name?

Yeah, good luck with *that* one...

Ooh, that won't work. You see, I don't believe in magic of any kind,
and that includes luck.

"Luck" is statistical clumping, and definitely occurs.

Point taken. I'll concede that this does, in fact, occur. OTOH, on the
idea of lucky "streaks" (prior sequence of independent random events
predicting future independent random events---am I saying that right?),
or of any efficacy of wishing someone luck, I'll have to pass.

True; the coin has no memory. But that doesn't preclude
statistical clumping, which is the very definition of "lucky
streak". I once watched a fair coin come up heads over 20
times in a row, even though each coin toss had the same 50%
probability of doing so. And was flipped onto concrete, not
caught by hand. Streaks *do* happen, even though they're
unpredictable.

That's quite a series! My interpretation of "lucky streak" though is
more along the lines of "I'm on a lucky streak, I can't lose!"

I believe that while *intellectually* most gamblers know
that the coin has no memory, they reject that notion
emotionally (maybe even subconsciously). And I further
suspect that they reject (subconsciously or otherwise) the
fact that only chance determines such outcomes.

Post by BruceS
If it's
just about history, then no problem. It's the gamblers' use of it in
setting expectations that I reject. We're just arguing from different
interpretations of the term, not from underlying concept, on which we agree.

Seems so... ;-)

[Bob Officer]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:46:04 -0700, in misc.health.alternative, Bob

Post by Bob Casanova
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:00:36 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by Bob Casanova
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:20:46 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You could just killfile each one as it comes up.

I don't mind *reading* here posts; I find her kookery entertaining, just
as I do with some other kooks. It just seemed like it would be helpful
to make her nyms even more transparent. Bob has a suggestion, but it
sounds like too much work for such a lazy person. Maybe an appeal to
Carole herself would work.
Carole, would you mind putting all your posts under your own name?

Yeah, good luck with *that* one...

Ooh, that won't work. You see, I don't believe in magic of any kind,
and that includes luck.

"Luck" is statistical clumping, and definitely occurs.

The question is really is the clumping predictable or not?

It certain doesn't seem to be predictable during a series of trials
consisting of set of small number of rolls. IIRC our Stats class
rolled a single die, 100 times looking for the occurrence of a six.
we did so 10 times. the occurrence fell into predicted the 1:6 nearly
perfectly for each 100 rolls -+0.01%. IIRC For the total of 10,000 it
was off a .0001%. I observed the deviation did get smaller as the
number of rolls increases.

Would the clumping be more pronounced with Smaller runs?

Post by Bob Casanova

Post by BruceS
Seriously, I have no expectation of getting any
cooperation from Carole on this. At best, I thought it might provoke a
round of vehement denials from her, possibly using several of her nyms
all pretending they're different people living in different places and
thinking different things. Even that would be a bit of a stretch, but I
hope I've amused a few people in the process.

Post by Bob Casanova

Post by BruceS
You
know by now that you're not fooling anyone, and it just makes you look
that much sillier. Please?
I won't hold my breath, but maybe she'll have a brief moment of clarity,
and understand why sock puppetry is not in her interests.

Maybe she's relying on the "silent lurkers", and hoping they
can't read for comprehension. ;-)

But if a person is unable to read for comprehension, aren't they most
likely already a follower of various woo?

Sure.

and if they has any charisma, they can be a leader of woo!

Post by Bob Casanova

Post by BruceS
I guess a homeopath could
hope to convince a few astrologers or vitamin B addicts to switch
religions. In alt.support.cancer we had a whole spectrum of loons. One
claimed that you could cure your cancer by extracting juice from fresh
onions, and drinking that (half a cup?) every morning with nothing else
to dilute it. Another blamed colon cancer on shoes, while our most
persistent loon blamed excess iron and pushed chelation therapy. If
something had no empirical evidence to support something, you could be
sure *someone* would claim it as an effective remedy, kept hidden by The
Man aka Big Pharma. It was always amusing to watch these titans of
intellect collide. The same people who used mass hypnosis to make New
Yorkers think they'd seen aircraft on 9/11 (when really it was carefully
placed explosives that nobody had noticed) are also keeping the 200mpg
carburetor under wraps and forcing people to stay sick so they can sell
those people drugs.

I think you've just supported my implied assertion, that
woo-woos aren't one-trick ponies, and tend to latch on to
just about and lunacy they encounter, *especially* if it
involves a gigantic conspiracy. And the only times I've seen
them collide is over contradictory lunacies.

Exactly. The lack of ability to think critically is a constant thread
among Woo-followers. The same is said among fad followers.

[Bob Casanova]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:27:54 -0700, the following appeared

Post by Bob Officer
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:46:04 -0700, in misc.health.alternative, Bob

Post by Bob Casanova
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:00:36 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by Bob Casanova
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:20:46 -0600, the following appeared

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You could just killfile each one as it comes up.

I don't mind *reading* here posts; I find her kookery entertaining, just
as I do with some other kooks. It just seemed like it would be helpful
to make her nyms even more transparent. Bob has a suggestion, but it
sounds like too much work for such a lazy person. Maybe an appeal to
Carole herself would work.
Carole, would you mind putting all your posts under your own name?

Yeah, good luck with *that* one...

Ooh, that won't work. You see, I don't believe in magic of any kind,
and that includes luck.

"Luck" is statistical clumping, and definitely occurs.

The question is really is the clumping predictable or not?

Nope; it can only be seen in retrospect.

Post by Bob Officer
It certain doesn't seem to be predictable during a series of trials
consisting of set of small number of rolls. IIRC our Stats class
rolled a single die, 100 times looking for the occurrence of a six.
we did so 10 times. the occurrence fell into predicted the 1:6 nearly
perfectly for each 100 rolls -+0.01%. IIRC For the total of 10,000 it
was off a .0001%. I observed the deviation did get smaller as the
number of rolls increases.
Would the clumping be more pronounced with Smaller runs?

I'd suggest (with essentially zero actual evidence in
support other than an appreciation of the nature of
probability) that the longer the run, the more likely
clumping would be detected and the longer the "streaks"
would be, but only due to the greater number of events
available in which they could occur. IOW, I'd expect the
clumps to be a relatively constant (and small) percentage of
the number of trials.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Bob Casanova

Post by BruceS
Seriously, I have no expectation of getting any
cooperation from Carole on this. At best, I thought it might provoke a
round of vehement denials from her, possibly using several of her nyms
all pretending they're different people living in different places and
thinking different things. Even that would be a bit of a stretch, but I
hope I've amused a few people in the process.

Post by Bob Casanova

Post by BruceS
You
know by now that you're not fooling anyone, and it just makes you look
that much sillier. Please?
I won't hold my breath, but maybe she'll have a brief moment of clarity,
and understand why sock puppetry is not in her interests.

Maybe she's relying on the "silent lurkers", and hoping they
can't read for comprehension. ;-)

But if a person is unable to read for comprehension, aren't they most
likely already a follower of various woo?

Sure.

and if they has any charisma, they can be a leader of woo!

Post by Bob Casanova

Post by BruceS
I guess a homeopath could
hope to convince a few astrologers or vitamin B addicts to switch
religions. In alt.support.cancer we had a whole spectrum of loons. One
claimed that you could cure your cancer by extracting juice from fresh
onions, and drinking that (half a cup?) every morning with nothing else
to dilute it. Another blamed colon cancer on shoes, while our most
persistent loon blamed excess iron and pushed chelation therapy. If
something had no empirical evidence to support something, you could be
sure *someone* would claim it as an effective remedy, kept hidden by The
Man aka Big Pharma. It was always amusing to watch these titans of
intellect collide. The same people who used mass hypnosis to make New
Yorkers think they'd seen aircraft on 9/11 (when really it was carefully
placed explosives that nobody had noticed) are also keeping the 200mpg
carburetor under wraps and forcing people to stay sick so they can sell
those people drugs.

I think you've just supported my implied assertion, that
woo-woos aren't one-trick ponies, and tend to latch on to
just about and lunacy they encounter, *especially* if it
involves a gigantic conspiracy. And the only times I've seen
them collide is over contradictory lunacies.

Exactly. The lack of ability to think critically is a constant thread
among Woo-followers. The same is said among fad followers.

Yep.

And the worst effect, at least to me, is that it tends to
make *all* conspiracy claims look equally loony, even those
few which happen to be correct. (Watergate, anyone?) And
it's even an adage - the boy who cried "Wolf!".

[Ernie]

Post by george152

Post by BruceS

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.

That is pure and utter crap and were you not carole I'd expect an apology

I have a quick technical question. I'm using Thunderbird. Is there a
simple way I can get it to display the "From" as Carole for all of her
sock puppets?

You could just killfile each one as it comes up.

That's essentially what I've done to her multitude of socks, save for
one (Reg), which allows me some privity to her continuing nonsense,
but on a much more tolerable scale.

I read the replies to her other socks from Bob OFficer, Kaye, and
Lu, which dampen the kook's nonsense with their relevant spot-on
replies, providing great entertainment value to boot.

I would give Bob Officer a Yeoman's Award for his persistence in
shedding light on carole's nonsense with facts, references to scientific
evidence, and logic. Without Bob's daily grind WRT carole, this ng would
long ago have become unbridled anarchy.

Of course, I cannot fail to also honorably mention the valuable input
from Peter Bowditch and Martin, as well as Kaye and Lu, and others who
from time to time add theirs here as well. I greatly appreciate and
commend your attention and efforts.

[Katherine Clairmont]

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:04:31 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, Reg

Post by Reg Griswold

Post by Bob Officer
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:14:12 -0400, in misc.health.alternative, Woody

Post by Woody

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Oh no . . . another link to rense . . . when will it end?
carole doesn't understand science . . . she's can't possibly know!

IIRC GWS, was suspected to be caused by a infection carried by a sand
mite. The parasite was carried on the skin and the belongings of
returning GIs. The infections then spread to family members, carried
by the mites.

Post by Woody
carole <-- the blind attempting to lead the blind

http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist."

rense? The same source which claims the Queen of England is a
reptile? Have you no shame carole?
http://www.google.com/search?q=everything+in+the+internet+is+true
http://everythingontheinternetistrue.com/
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Proof_that_everything_on_the_internet_is_true

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/gulf_war_syndrome/GWS_and_Vaccines.html
"French troops, who did not receive the same massive drug cocktails as
their American and British counterparts, have not suffered the same
incidence of Gulf war syndrome. "

The causal agent of GWS initially and until about 1998 was thought to
be a parasite transmited by a small mite.

Post by Reg Griswold
http://www.asanltr.com/ASANews-97/poxvaccines.htm
"A number of troops who were not sent to the conflict, but who were
injected with the same group of vaccines, have shown the same symptoms
and trends as those claiming to have the GWS. The troops were
designated as backups that were prepared, but never deployed.
"Prior to these reports, many people, including scientists and medical
professionals, believed that chemical exposures from distant
ammunition dumps, sporadic detection of chemical detectors and even
the extensive oil fires might be responsible for the GWS. While ASA
was in Kuwait, they spoke with several of the doctors and asked if
there was any evidence of symptoms similar to the GWS in the Kuwaiti
population. No such clustering of such symptoms has been noted, which
questions the effect of exposure to these chemicals as a cause. "

Additionally, the other possible agents were Sarin nerve gas which
was detected by British, Czech, and France. and the PB tablets used
to counteract the nerve agent rather than point to an infectious
agent.
RAC-GWVI Report 2008, p. 1 (PDF p. 11)
www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA491742

Post by Reg Griswold
Poor bob, so stuck in denial he can't even consider the possibility
that big pharma is responsible for causing disease.

http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/970409/cia_wp.html
There are several good and well written reports including one that
rules out infectious agents and points out that 125,000 us troops and
9,000 british troops were exposed to mustard gas and sarin which the
US destroyed the Iraq's ammo storage facility at Khamisiyah.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza34.htm\
Squalene - the swine flue vaccine's dirty ltitle secret exposed.
Let's face it, there are a lot of things that go into vaccines that
aren't tested properly.
Reg
"Trust us, we're experts!"

Squalene is not a toxin, it never was. The fact that you do not understand what it is does not make it dangerous. As a matter of fact, squalene is naturally found in the human body, and is used in the metabolism of cholesterol and fats.

I suggest you actually learn things before, well, before posting wild statements about nothing at all

[george152]

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Carole gets it wrong again.Is there no beginning to this womans abilities ?
NO

[Woody]

Post by george152

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "

Carole gets it wrong again.Is there no beginning to this womans abilities ?
NO

And she wants to be taken seriously.

No way . . . no how.

[Katherine Clairmont]

Post by Reg Griswold
Vaccines, Autism and Gulf War Syndrome
http://rense.com/general67/vacc.htm
"Unfortunately, the science supporting the safety of unlimited
vaccination of small children and adults does not exist. "
Reg
"Trust us, we're experts!"

Carole, just because you don't understand what a chemical is (water is a chemical, so you better forcibly dehydrate your children and plants to save them from the evil), does not mean you have any right to denounce it. You, in my mind, are worse than creationists, because at least a creationist can be convinced that the bible isn't literal, and that the whole 7 days thing was a metaphor.